Recent Disney Trip

cruising spud

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I am mostly a disboards lurker, not a poster, but since I have always appreciated all of the useful advice this site offers, I thought I would post a review of our recent (we are currently headed home) Disney trip.


I probably won’t be saying anything that frequent/recent Disney goers don’t know, but I thought there might be folks reading who are like our family and haven’t been to Disney in a while.


My first stop- some background-our family used to visit Disney quite a bit. We stayed on-site at Disney hotels and loved going. Then, after our two oldest daughters left home, we discovered rv’ing, and although we continued to do Disney, we also traveled to other places. So, Disney…. not as much. Our last three Disney trips, counting this one, have been at Fort Wilderness. And, as a reference, three of us went on this trip. My DD/age 21, my DH/age 63, and me/age 57.


So, what was different/the same after being away from Disney for seven years?


Technology-Disney has started to edge into the age of technology. My experience setting up fastpasses was anything but stellar, so I wasn’t thinking I would fall in love with fastpasses at the parks, but I did. We still got to the parks a few minutes before each park opened, but that commando-style rider inside me was able to quiet itself a bit. Wonderful. A lesson I learned-unless you are talking about a BIG, think Seven Dwarves Mine Train, ride, don’t bother to make any fasspasses until an hour and a half or so after the parks open. All of the rides we did for the first hour or two were total walk-ons. I did feel that one item that Disney needs to work on would be setting up additional fastpass kiosks. These were few and far between, and the wait time at each one was fairly long.


One more technology item-really Disney, isn’t it time you had free internet available at the campsites without having campers set up those modems? Even one-star rated campgrounds have free-easy-to-use internet.


And, now that I think about it, one technology item that absolutely drove me insane-the laundry room at our comfort station. There was only one washing machine and two dryers that accepted coins. All other machines needed credit cards. Okay, my first and second laundry days went fine, but then, the credit card machine stopped accepting my credit card. Irony….this is the Disney credit card. I called Chase and was told that the credit card machine was not sending any hits to the credit card company. A machine issue. BUT, other people with different credit cards had no issues. I called guest relations. Five times in three days. No one could help. The fifth time I asked to speak to a supervisor, who said that this is an issue with some credit cards at some machines. He told me that I could buy a laundry card, which I did. No more problems.


And, my magic band did not always open the laundry mat door on the first try. Or the second. Sometimes not until the fourteenth or fifteenth try.


But, this was my biggest Disney issue, so, like Elsa, I Let It Go



Cleaniness-Fort Wilderness bathhouses were fantastic (my daughter used these every day), and I thought the parks were clean.


Our campsite was excellent, and the site still had the extra green hose, which I love. And, the grill was great to have, too.


Transportation-buses and boats always arrived in a timely fashion. Wonderful.


My husband and I brought our bikes. Did biking in the morning. Not too hot if done early enough. A fun way to see the campground.


One thing I learned that I did not know-we bought ten day tickets with no hopper option. On our last day at the parks, we visited Animal Kingdom. Got back to our camp site at about 4:00 pm, and thought it would be nice, if possible, to go to the Magic Kingdom the same night for an ice cream, mini kitchen sink dinner. J I called Guest Relations and asked if we could use our last ticket day to do another park on the same day that we did Animal Kingdom. I was told yes. We hopped on the boat, got to Magic Kingdom, and NOPE, we could not get into the park. I thought-total misunderstanding, of course the gatekeepers will let us in, once I explain that I had already called Guest Relations and been told yes. No. No, doesn’t matter what you were told. No, I do not care to make your last day a magical experience. No, no, no. The Guest Relations lady was one tough cookie. A lesson learned.


Something else I learned-one night at 5:30 pm I walked up to Trails End and asked to make a dinner reservation for 7:00 pm. I was told that any reservation less than two hours out, had to be made using My Disney Experience. I pulled out my phone and attempted to access the Disney app. But, the wifi was down, so the hostess penciled in my name. Very nice. And now I know.


One thing that amazed me-the vast amounts of alcohol sold at the parks. Now, I’m not a prohibition sort of person. We tossed back a few drinks ourselves. But, there were a heck of a lot more drink stands than fastpass kiosks. By far. .


Check out was fantastic. We ended up leaving a day early. I went to check out, and without even asking, was told that Disney would refund us for the day we didn’t use. Totally not expecting this. Nice, and thank you.



The dining plan-up until we got to Disney, I thought the dining plan was a total rip-off. Why would anyone buy it? But, after this recent visit, I can see why the dining plan would be a good idea. Especially if you stay in a hotel. Or have a lot of hungry kids. It wouldn’t have made sense for us this visit, but it is no longer something I will write-off as a waste of money.


I realize this is a long post. Just wanted to include everything I noticed on our trip. And, I would like to send out a thank you to everyone who does consistently post on the disboards.
 
Thanks for the update, spud.

I too have run headlong into trying to use a multiday pass on the same day that wasn't a hopper. The answer was no for me too.

Personally, I've given up on getting WIFI at the Fort. I don't stream video so my cellphone will hot spot my computer for the DIS, email, and so forth so I'm fine. There are still campground (great ones) that due to their geography or service provider don't offer WIFI yet. My other home-away-from-home is Gulf State Park on the Alabama Gulf Coast and folks have begged for WIFI for years but it hasn't happened yet.

The laundry room issue I think is too much of a good thing. Washing clothes is a low-tech activity. The notification technology (when your load is done) is great. Charging $2 on the card for a load is a little ridiculous. But I'm sure some pencil pusher in the Bay Lake bunker ran a business case that said WDW would save money by implementing it.

What site/loop were you in?

Bama Ed
 
Those were some great observations. :thumbsup2 We are getting ready, 80 days to check-in, to get back to the Fort. In your post you were told you could buy a laundry card, could you explain this and where you got it from? Thanks.
 
Bama-ed-we were in site 124. The laundry room was diagonal from us.

Snowmedic-after fiasco upon fiasco with the laundry room, I finally called Fort Wilderness's front desk and asked to speak to the supervisor. After venting about the less-than-magical experience with my laundry, he told me about laundry cards, which are a relatively new item. He had two cards delivered to our campsite. However, I think they can be bought at the front desk. You just pay to have a set amount of money loaded onto each card. Each washer load was $2.50, as was each dryer load. These are swiped in the credit card machine.
 
THank you for all the great information, we are at the Ft. in 60 days!! Woo hooo!!! 1st time camping although we have stayed in the cabins, and we are hoping to be in the 100 loop. We have little people and sometimes their legs don't go as far and as fast as you would like them too. :D

We signed up for the DDP simply for the character meals for the girls, the hubby and I are also getting a nice date out of it too. We've never done this before so I am hoping for a magical experience. This is the 1st trip for my 2 youngest daughters so the excitement is rapidly building at our house.
 
I am dreading the "Laundry" situation. While I hate Co-op laundry, I am thinking I hate Credit card Laundry even more and I haven't even used it.

I'd much rather see a "Charge to room" option and use the Magic Band, but as was pointed out in a different thread, the washers (and CC machines) are not owned/maintained by Disney so the system isn't integrated in to the MBs :(
 
Thanks for the trip report! We have noticed the wifi issue as well.

Yesterday we arrived here with two huge garbage bags of laundry. I dragged those one ton puppies to the laundry room and changed $10 into quarters, loaded the machines and....only one machine took quarters!!!! How annoying. It doesn't say this clearly anywhere so had to send a kid back to the campsite to grab my credit card and now I have two lbs of quarters in my wallet:)

As a money saving tip, the dryers can hold 1.5 + washing machines of clothes and dry just fine:).
 
AMCC- agree with you about the laundry. I, too, came with my bag of quarters, then ran back to our rv to get my credit card. Not bad, just wish I would have known ahead of time. And, I am agreeing with bama-ed-laundry should not involve high tech issues.
 
Thanks for the trip report and the incredible way you broke down your observations. Very thoughtful. We haven't been on the dining plan; what do you see as its advantages if staying at a hotel, and especially without kids. We didn't think it was worth the money for us but we're open to reconsidering it. Thanks for your help.:thanks:
 
Guest relations at the Magic Kingdom seems to be on an different wavelength than the rest of Disney. They are by far the worst experience I have ever had in my 30 some trips to WDW. They are rude, condescending and totally lacking in Pixie dust.
 
themojosupreme-the dining plan/cons and now pros to me....


But, before I start. I mentioned a bit of this on another disboard and people felt my feelings about the dining plan were because I might be lacking the money to pay for a Disney package. Money is not the reason. It is simply my personal preference.


And, the dining plan-one quick serve, one sit-down table meal, one snack, a refillable mug-$60.64 per day for ages 10 through adult (who comes up with these numbers. Really? $60.64?) Ages 3-9/$19.23 per day.


The cons, to me-please understand this is purely personal:


1. You have to sign up for a package. I do not want to sign up for a Disney package. With the package, I have to buy (for my peace of mind) trip insurance, since I have already given Disney my vacation money. Just me, but I like waiting to pay Disney until we arrive. Just in case we have to cancel. We never have, but that is how my mind rolls. And, the package eliminates room-only deals, which I think are great if you are staying at the Disney hotels. In the past, we have gotten some fantastic room-only deals.


2. In the past, when we stayed at Disney hotels, we packed one suitcase with breakfast foods and snacks. Then, as the food dwindled, we could load the "food" suitcase with our souvenirs. Now, in the rv, we bring our own breakfast and snack food. When staying at the hotels, this gave us a chance to get ready in the morning without "wasting time" going out for breakfast and to have healthier snack options throughout the day. As our kids got older, and more opinionated about their meal options, they would head to the food court and supplement their breakfast with Disney food.


3. The older my husband and I get, and the more we watch our calories and cholesterol and all that other stuff that older age brings, the less we want to eat out two or three times a day. Don’t get me wrong. When we are at Disney, I do not cook, and we always do one meal out every day. This past visit we ate at Be Our Guest, The Crystal Palace, Tusker House, etc. But, more than that-we just aren’t interested.


This trip, our once-a-day Disney meal ran from a low of about $55 to a high of about $180. Average meal was about $110. We also did a Dole Whip or two (but who’s counting), some caramel apples, etc. The dining plan would have cost us about $180 a day. We would have lost money.


The pros-our next trip will hopefully include all three of our daughters and the best two grandchildren the world has ever seen. We would be happy to camp and have our daughter’s family (the family with those wonderful grandchildren) rent a cabin right near us. However, we would also be willing to fly on down to Disney and do a Disney hotel room with them. Whatever they want will be good to us. In that case, we would most probably do the Disney dining plan. Why?


1. Food is expensive at Disney and this way no one will feel worried about the price of meals. However, I will no doubt still load a suitcase with breakfast foods for everyone-healthier for my husband and me and easier to get everyone ready and out the door on time.


2. Disney does have some semi-healthy options for quick serve meals.


3. When we go to Disney in our rv we tend to stay two week. This trip would probably be a week, and I can certainly let loose with food for a week.


Hope this helps.
 
Cruising Spud: we do think alike! As value conscious consumers, for our use, the dining plan didn't give good value: too much food. Those budget dollars would more likely be spent on entertainment and souvenirs. We do a lot of meals like y'all do: breakfast in the room, one large meal during the day, limited snacking. So we don't conform to the average dining plan user. Like you, it isn't the money, it is the value. And, Dining plan or great room rate? Room wins!

Paying upfront is a "dislike" for me, although I do endorse Disney's deposit for advanced reservations. I enjoy planning for a trip that I design and with this program, I can ensure that my dining and room and entertainment options will be available.

You brought to light one of the best PROs for the dining plan that I hadn't thought about. Equalizing the budget for meals when travelling with family/friends. While we enjoyed the major dining opportunities, some of our companions weren't wanting to do elaborate meals - usually they had done them previously or they were limited budgetwise. (All bets are off however when grandkids come into play and we will consider it as you mentioned.

Thanks for taking the time and explaining all of this. Great observations!
 
themojosupreme- I believe that Disney is slowing making it so park visitors HAVE to part with their money before arriving at Disney. Example-the new fastpass system makes it so people have to buy tickets (assuming they want to make fastpass selections) before arriving. And, once people have paid for their tickets, free dining, and thus a Disney package, are a logical next step for many people.
 
That is not a pretty picture for those of us who thrive on self direction and spontaneity while all the time watching our wallets. Sadly, we will eventually capitulate as we prefer the joy that Disney brings to our family. Heart over Finance. By the way, would we be making a mistake not to use Fastpass in advance. We are somewhat commando thru the parks early morning to get on our favorite rides without much of a line and then come back if there is a small line. That strategy has worked well but fastpass might interfere?
 
I must admit, I debated doing the whole fastpass thing. I simply didn't want to buy tickets two and a half months out. However, I decided to go the fastpass route, and I'm glad I did.

Now, since we went to Disney in the summer when it was hot, we hit the parks in the morning/early afternoon ( we always arrived a bit before the parks opened), and then often headed back at night. On our first park day, we discovered that once we used up our three fastpasses, we could go to a kiosk (only one more fastpass at a time, though, and this had to be done at a kiosk, you could not use your Disney phone app) and set up another fastpass. And, then another when the next one was used up. And, so on.

What we liked about these features. We didn't have to rush to get onto the big headline rides. We walked onto Toy Story, Buzz Lightyear, Soarin', the Seven Dwarves, with virtually no wait. Disney is really making an effort to ensure that fastpass riders get onto rides quickly. And, before we left the parks in the early afternoon, we could schedule another fastpass for the evening. Example, we set up fastpasses for Fantasmic and several shows, like Beauty and the Beast, and didn't feel rushed to stand in line so that we could have a seat. This made the parks a more relaxing experience for us.

On the other hand I noticed-except for the BIG, BiG newer rides, like the Seven Dwarves Mine Ride and Toy Story, we walked onto everything we wanted (or had a small wait) within the first hour and a half of our arrival at the parks. After that, the wait lines got longer for many of the rides.

So, is the fastpass system a must? My opinion-not is you get to the parks early enough, and not if you do not mind waiting in lines or not going on rides where the lines are too long. But, to me, they were a nice touch to our Disney stay, and I would do fastpass again.
 
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Thank you again for your thoughts and I will go ahead and buy our tickets in advance to set up the fastpasses. We have always bought them upon arrival at the resort. While we do get to the parks when the rope drops (we're early risers), it will be nice getting on the rides we most enjoy without running thru the park. It will also be different going without our kids: we won't be "herding cats" to the next ride, but will be able to take our time thru the rest of the day. Your information has been invaluable!
 

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